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Welcome to the Foundation’s podcast page. Below you will find interviews with safety experts from around the industry on a range of topics of interest to aviation safety professionals. New podcasts will be added as they are recorded. The views expressed in the podcasts are those of the speakers, and not necessarily those of the Foundation.

If you have a topic that you believe would be of interest to the aviation community, please get in touch with Vice President, Global Programs, Greg Marshall at marshall@flightsafety.org. Interviews can be conducted in-person at our head office or via Skype.

News, Flight Deck, Safety Recommendation

CASA Tells Airlines to Decide Future of “Two in the Cockpit” Practice

After airline risk assessments found that requiring two crewmembers in the cockpit at all times during flights “introduced unintended consequential risks,” Australia’s Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) has advised that carriers should decide on their own whether to maintain the practice.

In a CASA Briefing published online in late July, the agency said, “Operators should take an operational approach to maintaining the so-called ‘two in the cockpit’ practice.” CASA also said that such an approach is in line with the position taken by the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA), which revised its post-Germanwings guidance to carriers two years ago.

On March 24, 2015, the co-pilot of Germanwings Flight 9525, operated with an Airbus A320 with 144 passengers and five crew on board, intentionally crashed the airplane in the French Alps during a scheduled flight from Barcelona, Spain, to Dusseldorf, Germany. In its final report on the accident, the French Bureau d’EnquĂȘtes et d’Analyses said that “the collision with the ground was due to the deliberate and planned action of the co-pilot, who decided to commit suicide while alone in the cockpit.”

Shortly after the accident, Australian carriers operating aircraft with a seating capacity of more than 50 passengers agreed with the government to take a precautionary approach and to update and implement standard operating procedures (SOPs) to require two members of the operating crew or authorized persons on the flight deck at all times.

In a July 17, 2018, letter to the Australian Airlines Pilots’ Association, Rob Walker, executive manager stakeholder engagement at CASA, said the agency has considered advice received from airlines and pilot unions recommending that the policy be rescinded to remove unnecessary risks. According to Walker’s letter, detailed airline risk assessments found that the policy:

  • Did not provide any additional reduction in risk and had a limited deterrent effect;
  • Heightened existing risks both to security and the physiological state of the flight crew;
  • Introduced unintended consequential risks, including the second person possibly distracting the pilot, making inadvertent contact with the cockpit switches and limiting cabin crew time in the cabin, affecting their safety role;
  • Complicated flight crew access and introduced additional risk of flight deck incursion; and,
  • Created an additional role and stress for cabin crew, with a risk of overreaction in the absence of knowledge of flight crew and aircraft control procedures.

The assessments found that the policy provided some potential mitigation in the event of the pilot remaining in the cockpit becoming medically incapacitated, but that this was outweighed by the outlined consequential risks, CASA said.

“In light of this advice and developments overseas, in particular, action by [EASA] taking a more flexible risk-based approach which allows operators to evaluate their own safety requirements, CASA considers that the most practical way forward for operators is to adopt the EASA approach 
 then evaluate their own safety requirements and make an operational decision on whether to maintain ‘two in the cockpit’” in their SOPs, Walker said.

CASA said that its aviation medical branch will continue to monitor pilot mental health and maintain a high level of awareness among pilots of mental health priorities and sources of assistance.

The EASA action referenced by Walker was a revised EASA Safety Information Bulletin (SIB) on Minimum Cockpit Occupancy that was issued in July 2016. The original SIB, which recommended that operators implement procedures requiring at least two authorized persons to be in the cockpit at all times, was issued on March 27, 2015, three days after the Germanwings accident. In the revised SIB (2016-09), EASA recommends that a risk assessment is performed and then, based on the results of the assessment, the operator may decide to maintain the two-persons-in-the-cockpit procedure as one possible mitigating measure.

The revised SIB provides guidance on the elements to be considered in the performing the risk assessment, including:

  • The operator’s psychological and security screening policy of flight crews;
  • Employment stability and turnover rate of flight crews;
  • Access to a support program, providing psychological support and relief to flight crew when needed; and,
  • Ability of the operator’s management system to mitigate psychological and social risks.

The revised SIB also includes several recommendations for carriers if they decide to maintain the two-crew requirement, including that the role of the authorized person entering the cockpit is clearly defined and that his or her main task should be to open the cockpit door when the pilot returns; that only qualified personnel sit at the airplane’s controls; and that training needs are identified and addressed.

FSF Editorial Staff. August 8, 2018

News, Human Factors, Safety Regulation

EU Publishes New Rules on Crewmembers’ Mental Fitness

European airlines will begin performing psychological assessments of newly hired pilots before they begin employment, according to new European Union safety rules published Wednesday.

The rules also call for alcohol testing of pilots and cabin crewmembers employed by airlines that fly into European Union member states, and the establishment of a support program to assist pilots who work for European airlines in “recognising, coping with and overcoming problems which might negatively affect their ability to safety exercise the privileges of their licence.” The announcement about the new rules did not mention a requirement for drug testing.

The new rules were developed in the aftermath of the March 24, 2015, crash of Germanwings Flight 9525 into the French Alps. All 150 passengers and crew in the Airbus A320 were killed and the airplane was destroyed in the crash, which the French Bureau d’EnquĂȘtes et d’Analyses said was planned by the first officer, who wanted to kill himself.

“These new European rules take up the proposals EASA [the European Aviation Safety Agency] made in its swift follow-up of the Germanwings Flight 9525 accident,” said EASA Executive Director Patrick Ky. “With these rules, Europe introduces the right tools to safeguard the mental fitness of air crew.”

he rules will take full effect following a two-year transition period to allow EASA member states and airlines to establish the infrastructure needed for compliance, EASA said. The agency said it plans to issue guidance material to support implementation of the new rules and will work with the industry and member states to aid in implementation of the regulation.

FSF Editorial Staff. July 25, 2018

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TSB Calls for Mandatory Drug and Alcohol Testing in Canada

The Transportation Safety Board (TSB) of Canada is recommending that regulator Transport Canada work with aviation industry and union representatives to develop and implement requirements for a comprehensive substance abuse program. The program, intended to reduce the risk of impairment of persons while engaged in safety sensitive functions, should include mandatory testing, as well as education, employee assistance, rehabilitation and peer support, TSB said.

TSB made its recommendation in the final report, released Thursday, in the April 13, 2015, fatal accident of a Swearingen SA-226-TC Metro II operated by Carson Air Ltd. The Metro II was carrying freight from Vancouver International Airport to Prince George Airport when, according to TSB, it entered a steep dive shortly after takeoff and suffered a catastrophic in-flight breakup. Both pilots were fatally injured.

Toxicology testing indicated that the captain had a blood alcohol level of .24 percent and likely had consumed a significant amount of alcohol on the day of the accident flight.

“Based on the captain’s blood alcohol content, alcohol intoxication almost certainly played a role in the events leading up to the accident,” TSB said in its findings. But the investigative agency was unable to determine with certainty exactly what happened. “For unknown reasons, the aircraft descended in the direction of flight at high speed until it exceeded its structural limits, leading to an in-flight breakup,” the report said.

The airplane was not equipped, nor was it required to be, with a flight data recorder or cockpit voice recorder.

“In Canada, regulations and company rules prohibit flying while impaired, but they rely heavily on self-policing,” TSB Chair Kathy Fox said in a news release. “We realize that employees within Canada’s aviation industry will have concerns under any possible testing regime,” she said. “That is why we recommend that the substance abuse program consider and balance the need to incorporate human rights principles enshrined in the Canadian Human Rights Act with the responsibility to protect public safety.”

In its report, TSB offered three possible scenarios that would explain the events and unsafe conditions that may have played a role in the accident: a pitot system blockage, pilot incapacitation, and an intentional act.

Wreckage of the accident aircraft at the TSB laboratory. Photo Credit: TSB

FSF Editorial Staff. November 3, 2017

News, Fitness for Duty, Aviation Medicine

New Study Sees Symptoms of Depression Among Airline Pilots

A new survey-based study published online in the public health journal Environmental Health found that a “significant number” of active pilots suffer from symptoms of depression. According to the study’s authors, all of whom are affiliated with the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, 233, or 12.6 percent, of the 1,848 airline pilots who responded to the survey met a threshold for depression. In addition, 75, or 4.1 percent, reported having suicidal thoughts.

“Although results have limited generalizability, there are a significant number of active pilots suffering from depressive symptoms,” the authors said. “We recommend airline organizations increase support for preventative mental health treatment.”

The study is based on an anonymous web-based survey administered between April and December 2015. The study was launched in the immediate aftermath of Germanwings Flight 9525, an Airbus A320-200 that, according to investigators, was intentionally flown into the ground in the French Alps by its first officer, killing all 150 on board.

FSF Editorial Staff. December 15, 2016

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EASA Offers New Rules for Pilot Mental Fitness

The European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) has proposed new rules that will require airlines to conduct a pre-employment psychological assessment of pilots.

The proposal was prompted by the March 24, 2015, crash of Germanwings Flight 9525, an Airbus A320-200 that, according to the French Bureau d’EnquĂȘtes et d’Analyses (BEA), was intentionally flown into the ground in the French Alps by its first officer, killing himself and all 149 others in the airplane. EASA’s proposed rules, submitted to the European Commission on Dec. 9, also call for support programs to be available for all pilots dealing with mental fitness issues.

Other proposals call for the introduction of systematic drug and alcohol testing of flight and cabin crewmembers upon their employment, after their involvement in an accident or serious illness, “with due cause (i.e., following reasonable suspicion)” and following their return to work from a substance abuse rehabilitation program.

In addition, airlines not already subject to national programs for psychoactive substance testing would participate in mandatory random alcohol screening of flight and cabin crewmembers through a European Union program, EASA said.

EASA added that the proposals address safety recommendations from an EASA-led task force and from the BEA as a result of the crash investigation.

EASA’s proposals will form the basis of a legislative proposal by the European Commission in 2017.

FSF Editorial Staff. December 9, 2016

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